Watch out for True Cures
Posted on Sunday, November 15th, 2009 at 3:14 PMWe have had issues with this guy running his True Cures scam. He is attempting to do and say all sorts of things that is not true about the herpes virus. On top of that.. not only is his information wrong but he is the biggest troubling-scam-artist troll I think I’ve ever ran into in the world of scams and too-good-to-be-true potions.
It turns out I am not the only one who has been attacked by this guy’s nonsense. This was sent to me today and I thought I would share it with all of you so that you are not sucked up into this guy’s hog wash brain child titled: True Cures.
Hello Angela,
I would like to commend you for banning Fen73 aka TrueCures. True Cures has been banned from the Kinesiology board, Racoon.com and Curezone.com.
Please click on the links for verification:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1425659#i
http://racoon.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi
True Cures uses many handles such as Viszla 100, Fen73, Big Gay John,
Medusa, etc to post false testimonials and promote his business. He has several hubs but regularly go to other hubs to get clients.http://hubpages.com/author/TrueCures/hot/
He has angered one of his clients and she has started a hub about him and posted testimonials from some of his other clients.
http://hubpages.com/hub/True-Cures—Con-Man–Fraud–Scam-Artist
A number of his clients have also posted on several sites about TrueCures.
Once again, Great job and please continue to upkeep the integrity and
standards of your site.
As always I want to reiterate to my readers that if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. One thing that you can do to arm yourself with information and the facts surrounded by whatever it is that ails you is to do your homework on the subject. If you do your homework and read up on the latest you will not need to take my word for it. You’ll be able to see a scam artist for what they are right off the bat.
Do you want to explain what the lies, scams and fraud you accuse me of?
You have banned me for suggesting fungicides will work better for your misdiagnosed herpes than any other product.
You banned be because it only takes seven or eight dollars to confirm if an OB is herpes of fungus.
You attack me personally but I do not see you attacking my claims.
I believe it can be effectively argued that you are the scam and fraud. Otherwise you could post your disputes instead of your attacks.
I have had genital herpes since 1995. It was not misdiagnosed. Once you contract herpes you keep herpes. To date, there is no way to remove herpes from your body once you contract it. You were banned from my forum because you were mean, rude, and nasty to everybody participating on it including me. We don’t have to put up with your BS. I don’t need to attack your claims because anybody with the sense to do real research already knows that your claims are faulty and not clinically proven or backed by the FDA.
Hi Angela, I want to commend you for not knuckling under to True Cure’s strongarm tactics and lies. There is a reason why he has returned to your site here to put up a post after many months of it being dead. Well, your telling of the truth here on this thread comes up on the first page of a google search of ‘True Cures’. And he feels that it is costing him business. He is constantly cutting you down and calling you dirty words on the internet and his hubs and sites. He does feel that you are costing him clients.
We know that it is actually saving innocent people from being taken and mislead. So all of us appreciate you sticking up to him. His record in curing people has been dismal. And the lies and dirty words he says about people is just terrible. So please don’t let him get the best of you. I know you won’t. You have stood your ground to his attacks and we all appreciate that. Thank you.
One Who Knows,
Being that you are posting under someone else’s handle from the CureZone, a client of mine who was banned from the CureZone for posting favorable results after seeing me making it obvious you are still BlackNgold/Posenergies/Positiveenergies making waves across the internet to protect your business interest in alternative medicine and the CureZone.
Angela is protecting her herpes forum from the facts I expose that will reflect very poorly on her if she allowed them to remain. She doesn’t want me on her forum telling people that antifungals will work better than antivirals. It’s no big deal.
If Angela wants to believe she has a disease that can’t be cured, that is her freedom. If she considers advice about fungicides as mean and nasty it’s her forum.
The people reading my advice on her forum loved it.
Now, Positiveenergies/Blackngold and abuser of One who knows and Vizsla100’s handles you can call me a scam but Angela will not dispute my claims because she cannot. Not even the greatest doctor or scientist is going to be able to dispute my claims. They can only deny them but they cannot prove that an IgG test proves a person has herpes. They cannot prove that other pathogens will not cause a raised IgG level. For them to try to dispute my claims will make them look very foolish and expose actually expose more medical frauds. The question is, how long will she allow me to post here before she bans me again. PE/BNG/One who knows, you don’t know anything but the fact that your lively hood is at risk when cures without products are exposed.
By the way, I will look into getting a cease and desist order against you Posenergies and Angela too if she resorts to your tactics. I suggest you two post facts and disputes and stop accusing me of being a scam and a con because it is easily proved that I am not.
I welcome your disputes if you can come up with any. What doesn’t set well with me is the lies you spread. I understand you can hide behind a handle PE/One who knows but Angela can’t. If she wishes to attack me she will have to keep with the facts and do welcome those.
The day will come PE when I get your real name and hold you accountable for your lies and accusations. I look forward to it because I remember the very nice car you have from our brief visit in NYC so I know you can pay for any damage a judge sees fit to award for the minor headache you cause.
One Who Knows: David Flowers of True Cures has been harassing me from day #1. He’s ticked off at me because I will not let him post about his SCAM on my forum. If he is losing business it’s not because of me it’s because he is a horrible person inside and out and the people he is trying to sell his MIRACLE CURE to are smarter about the herpes virus than he had anticipated.
David Flowers of the True Cures SCAM: BUZZ OFF! Nobody cares what you have to say. My site, my forum, my blog and I can say whatever I want to. This is the United States of America where Free Speech is alive and well. Take your THREATS and shove it where the sun don’t shine!
Nope I am not ticked off, just letting people know that talking about the relationship between herpes and fungus is a taboo topic which lets people know that you are censoring your forum which looks a lot like you are protecting the business of herpes instead of searching for relief and answers.
Someone suggest there is a cure and the herpes in most cases isn’t herpes and you ban them. I’m not ticked off just letting people know what to expect with you.
Angela, True Cure prefers to be called “Dr.” Flowers. That’s right. He has bestowed the title of “Dr.” upon himself because he believes that he is the only person in the world who has the ability to heal people. It does seem weird though…..
If “Dr.” Flowers can cure cancer and Aids and herpes, and in one or two visits with him…
Then what is he doing grovelling, harassing and trolling this forum for clients?
Positiveenergies, is that the fact that I am more advanced in regards to cures than the greatest doctor suppose to discredit me?
Angela, you can call me TC, True Cures, David, David, Flowers, Mr. Flowers, Doc even buddy boy, it doesn’t change the fact that my work focuses on providing cures that your doctor cannot provide.
I bestowed the honorary title to prove a point and a very good point at that.
PE/BnG/one who knows you are going to have to come up with something better than calling me a con or suggesting that I am not worthy of the title doctor.
Angela, I wonder why you started this blog? Was it a simple attempt to discredit me? Or do you have some doubts in your own beliefs. One thing you will not succeed in is proving I am anything less than I claim. I’m curious, are you confident enough in your beliefs to carry on a discussion with me without resorting to name calling the way PE/BnG does? So far you haven’t discredited yourself beyond repair as One who knows/PE/BnG so you still carry some weight. Why not be the first to attempt to prove me wrong and let PE be herself.
“Dr.” Flowers – I think you came to the wrong site. You are always saying that nobody disputes your claims. That they are in fact just attacking you personally. Well let me spell it out in clear english since by your own words you have very little education.
EVERONE disputes your claims. The notion that there is one switch that can be triggered in the body to cure all sickness and disease, and that you are the only one who knows how to trigger it, and that we are all doomed to an early death unless we see you……
Well it is complete nonsense. And people see through you like you were a ghost. You have your own websites and hubs. Quit harrassing others on theirs.
(Oh yeah, that’s right. No one ever visits your sites…………………)
There is only one state that needs to be addressed before the body can maintain proper health and if anyone else knows how to set it properly they will be offering the same guarantee as I. I refer to this state as being switched and if science was interested they would be able to confirm it. Thank you for bringing it up. This little fact that you think I am making up is what separates me from all the ineffective modalities and products you advertise on your CureZone and why you banned me in the first place.
Angela, I am so happy Mr. Fake Cures is not allowed to pollute our forum with his toxic goober science.
Peace, Love, and Coffee!
Elizabeth,
Who do you think is impressed with the fact that you don’t like what I stand for?
So you don’t like the discussion of health that contradicts what you believe, big deal.
It doesn’t change the fact that neither you, Positiveenergies (posting as One Who Knows) or Angela have any reasonable dispute. You cannot say herpes testing is accurate and reliable nor can you say the body cannot cure herpes without coming off as a complete idiot. You pushed the envelope a little with your comment above, almost sounding like a person who would suggest herpes testing is reliable or that the body cannot cure itself of herpes. Besides, you are most likely Positiveenergies/blackngold anyway and it is worth mentioning to anyone reading this that in our whole history you still cannot dispute one claim I make. You can say I didn’t cure the 14 people in NYC of herpes but you cannot prove they have herpes and you certainly cannot prove that the few who still have sores or itches aren’t itching or having sores because of fungus. Because you cannot prove I do not do as I say or that my claims are false it leaves only one thing for Angela to do and that is to ban me the same as Positiveenergies/blackngold/one who know banned me from the CureZone.
True Cures is knowledge and knowledge is what cures incurable diseases. Censorship is the only way for you Elizabeth/PE/BnG to protect your investment in the CureZone.
Angela, thank you for giving me the opportunity to defend my reputation from the flaming accusations of those attempting to label me a con.
Does this man know that he can be arrested for posing as a physician if he is NOT one, especially while attempting to sell unproven medicines? They have jails for people like him. Actually, there is federal legislation in the works right now that will call a halt to this sort of false claim. If MR. Flowers would like to make all of us appear as fools and increase his business (while claiming that a “virus” is a “fungus” (no courses in microbiology or virology for this dude!) then I suggest that he IMMEDIATELY contact the FDA and CDC because the entire world has been waiting for a real “cure” for herpes and cancer for centuries! In fact, I know that they would make him an instant LEGAL multi-millionaire without Mr. Flowers having to bug non-profit support sites just to sell a few bucks worth of snake oil. In the meantime, we would fire all the LEGITIMATE doctors and scientists in the world who are experts in virology, microbiology, infectioius disease, chemistry, etc., and shut down all of the multi-million dollar medical labs that have tried for years to find a “cure” for such diseases. And to think one man, without ANY medical education, experience or scientific credentials other than his advertised claims of studying “alternative medicine” is supposed to trump the entire medical community of the WORLD. Amazing!
I just have ONE question: If Mr. Flowers thinks you can’t prove you have herpes by an IGG test—then HOW will we ever know when we are “cured”? Yeah, thought so. Anyone wanna buy some swampland?
It’s quite simple Positiveenergies, people thought to have herpes suffer from sores, rashes and itches; Google it if you do not believe me.
Now when a person sees me who suffers from serious and reoccurring sores, AKA “Outbreaks”, (please Google Outbreaks) and I see to it that they not only correct their autoimmune failure but also see to it that they eliminate all the fungus causing the sores thought to be herpes their sores and rashes go away and believe me and those cured that that is better proof than a antibody test set to be related to herpes but without any possible way of proving.
You see, as long as I do what I say I do, I cannot be arrested by medicine, science and pharmecuetical companies. YOU CAN’t TOUCH ME. You are completely impotent from preventing me from exposing cures for herpes and all so-called “incurable diseases”.
Do you want to take some more time and see if you can come up with a solid dispute of any kind. Really, what do you think the world will think when they learn that it doesn’t matter if you have herpes or not you can use True Cures and never have a sign or symptom. True Cures relieves the suffering medicine ignores. True Cures does not use ANY medicine. :) People will know they are cured of their sores when 20 out 20 people no longer have sores in a testing group.
90% of people that have genital herpes do not suffer from sores, rashes OR itching. It’s what makes your “miracle cure” such a crock-o-shit. To date there is no way to wipe the virus out of your body. There is no cure for herpes simplex virus. If there were you would not be trying to make a fortune from it. True Cures is a SCAM. Those same people that do not suffer from sores, etc. still have the herpes virus antibodies because there is no cure for that. Most people that experience outbreaks do not over time. Get lost Dr. SCAM-ARTIST.
I agree it sucks to be diagnosed asymptomatic because there is no real proof you are cured but then again there is no real proof you have herpes either because there is no proof that the herpeselect IgG test has anything to do with a virus period.
True Cures is not a miracle cure, there is nothing miraculous about True Cures. For medicine to cure herpes/fungus would be the miracle cure. Eating a pill for a cure would be a miracle. Relying on your immune system to cure herpes is the order of things and takes discipline, common sense and above all a proactive role. You want a pill so you can disregard your immune response and the actions required to engage it to cure the fungus/herpes. That is fine, but there are hundreds reading this that just want a cure and they will be happy to drink more water, stop antiperspirants, avoid carbs and sugars as long as it takes to eliminate the fungus causing there “so-called” herpes Obs. They would rather reset their autoimmune and be disease free the rest of their lives than put their faith in medicine to come up with the miracle pill.
You say “True Cures is a scam” you might have to do better than that. You might want to clarify how True Cures is a scam. Just saying I am a scam is all find and great for those of you against cures, because nothing is going to change you and those who make their living off of the suffering of others. There are no incurable diseases only incurable people. But those who believe they are designed with an immune system will want to know what grounds you base “True Cures is a scam”. It kills you that I offer a full 100% guarantee which debunks your accusations that I am a scam. By the way, my idea of a fortune is making a living here in Payette Idaho where the cost of living is next to nothing. I would like to pay a 800 dollar mortgage and have some money in the bank, that is the fortune I am trying to make. Play up the “scam” all you want, because that is the one thing I can prove I am not, that and the fact that anyone can be OB free.
Those of you diagnosed with herpes, there is no proof that you have herpes unless the actual virus is detected. There is no proof that you are inferior to a puney little virus either. Let’s give Angela the benefit of the doubt and consider this, if one person can be asymtamatic without any signs and symptoms, everyone can be asymtomatic and if alll signs and symptoms of “herpes” or fungus are eliminated from humanity who, herpes ceases to exist no matter what medicine can or cannot prove. You are the most advanced form of life on this planet and your autoimmune and immune response is the only thing responsible for your health. I’m not responsible for your health, I can only help you be responsible. There is nothing your immune system cannot cure if you choose to be responsible for yourself.
Herpes testing is completely unreliable and there is no proof the IgG test has anything in the world to do with herpes. My guess is everyone considered asymtomatic has a working autoimmune which prevents them from having fungal reactions. The fungus is likely present causing the high antibody count but the autoimmune prevents the fungal reactions. If science and medicine went after me I would build a stronger case for this theory than they can build for their current corruption.
By the way, I love this blog. How do you feel about me sharing it with others?
Don’t you just love how this guy wants everyone to believe that herpes is a fungus? How laughable is it that a so-called DOCTOR doesn’t understand proper herpes testing and how it all works. There is nothing to “play up” because he is doing a great job at convincing everyone what a QUACK he is all by himself. Every time he leaves a comment people run just as fast as they can to get away from his “CURE-ALL” and then he wonders why his SCAM is not getting much play. I wonder how long it will be before Quackwatch picks you up!
Quackwatch has already picked up on me. Quackwatch exposes modalities and products that are proved to be ineffective they do not expose information that harms their cause.
Take antiperspirants for example. The idiots in alternative medicine claimed it was the aluminum that was most harmful about antiperspirants which is easy to dispute. The FDA, AMA and Quackwatch jumped on it with a very logical and reasonable rebuke.
Noone in medicine is going to deny that the body is intended to perspire at the pits and to restrict that bodily function is detramental to ones health. If the FDA or AMA said that stopping perspiration had no ill side effects, their butts would be in a sling and I would be suing them.
No you won’t see Quackwatch going after me because there is NOT ONE SINGLE DOCTOR who will put his or her repuation on the line by saying in public that the human body does not have an immune response capable of eliminating herpes and fungus.
TRY ME, ask your doctor if it is impossible for the natural internal immune response to eliminate herpes? Do that and you will know why there will be no one disputing my claims, just people saying I am a scam without anyone actually being scammed.
Angela, you are going to have to do better than that. For you to discredit or disprove me and True Cures you are going to have to convince your reader that they have no immune response. You better get cracking. Tell them how they have no defense for a pitiful little virus or fungus. Of course the fact that you are still alive and posting here prove you have an internal and effective immune response so you do have quite the challenge and proving that there is a line from curing one virus with the immune response and not another.
You see, until now the conversation has been two sided. It has been western medicine against alternative medicine. Both are scams, frauds and extremely corrupt and believe it or not both are supported by big pharmeuticals because the the same people in charge of a person becoming and MD is in charge of a person becoming an alternative ND doctor. Now here I am telling people they have an internal immune response powerful enough to eliminate any pathogen without medicine and NO ONE CAN DISAGREE. I would say I have a rock solid case and Angela I feel good about what I do, something you will never feel as long as you keep trying to convince people they are helpless without medicine. How do you think the human race has survived this long, especially before medicine decided to take 110% responsibility for everyone’s health instead of teaching proper health and the natural function of the body?
Let’s face it, when it comes to the healing and immune response we are created with, it is almost completely ignored in society today. Thanks to your blog here people are getting a first peek at reason and logic. That should make you feel a little better.
Whatever you say “Dr.” David Flowers. You shot yourself in the foot when you told everybody on my forum that Herpes Simplex Virus was a fungus. Bad Bad Bad David. Now quit trying to get the last word in. This is not your blog, it’s mine.
“Watch out for True Cures” is as much my blog as yours if you do not stick to the facts.
For starters I did not say that herpes simplex virus is a fungus. Did I?
If there is really such thing as a herpes virus, it is surely a virus. But you should be aware that the herpes virus is very elusive. You doctor has never ever seen a herpes virus. Matter of fact, if there is indeed a herpes virus only a handful of people have seen it. Again you haven’t seen it, your doctor hasn’t seen it and the labs running the test haven’t seen it with only one possible exception with those who do the PCR testing but I wouldn’t hold my breath there either. You can I can only assume they actually see the actual virus. It is more likely the case that they only see indications of a virus existing.
What I am saying is the same I said above. There is no evedence that the IgG has any real association to any herpes virus. I also say that 95% of all sores diagnosed as herpes is actually fungal issues completely unrelated to herpes. I also say that the IgG level is most likely a result of fungus and not a virus. KEEP IN MIND, I say this because no matter what is causing the sore, I can help a person cure themselves of the sores and contrary to what you think, people like to be cured of their sores.
I know why you are letting me post here. You are hoping I will say something that the FDA can go after me for. I try and I try but the FDA just won’t engage. I can CURE herpes or fungus. I use the word CURE the way the word is intended. I use it in a way that your doctor cannot, simply because he or she cannot cure herpes or fungus. To say a virus is a fungus is pretty stupid, like saying a cat is a dog. I’m saying medicine and medical science are full of lies and you have it all wrong if you feel I should be worried about the law, quite the contrary. It is medicine and medical science that should be afraid, and rest assured they are. Just like you. What you feel is exactly what they feel. The cat is out of the bag. As long as you attack me personally and try to contradict the truth I will be here to set the records straight until you decide to ban me again.
I have to take tomorrow off from responding, will be too busy but I will catch up with you when I get some time. So you can get in the last word for a day or so. Besides, I think we are getting along well.
You don’t believe that the herpes virus is real? Are you kidding me? Of course not, you’re serious. More and more you are making yourself look like a fool. Now you guys know why this post is titled: Watch Out For True Cures. You can use the word “cure” until the cows come home and there is still no way to wipe out the virus from your body once you contract it. That goes for HSV-1 and HSV-2. Once you contract it, you keep it for life. Take your gobbledygook “Dr.” David Flowers of the so-called “True Cures” and BUZZ OFF. Remember friends, if it sounds too good to be true and nothing measures up to real scientific research and clinical trials, don’t believe joker “docs” like this one with the name of a site that sounds like it’s supposed to save your life. This is the perfect example of Snake Oil and the Snake Oil Salesman that he is. I’m surprised he doesn’t have a commercial with the Sham-Wow guy singing his praises. Seriously?